Next video: Ultra Wide Monitor, but vertically and gaming on it.
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On a Samsung Odyssey G9
would be awesome to play older roms on it
I wish LTT and short circuit would pull in some of the devs from floatplane to evaluate some of these productivity products from a developers perspective. I think two of these could be pretty awesome for a developer setup, would love to see what they think about it.
I think their devs are remote, if not from a different country. And probably contractual too so floatplane doesn't have so many permanent staff that can show up in front of the camera. Just an educated guess for working in technology companies tho
You can fit a lot of lines in this bad boy
I was literally about to comment that this would be great for Devs... I'd love one of these
Exactly! We always get the perspective of gamers and video editors but rarely devs
I would love to see that happen, especially that a big part of the ltt community are devs, me included
This is actually a great monitor for web development or any form of coding to be honest. Reading a long code file would be nice in this.
if it just had 120+ hz .. I would buy two right away
@AppleToaster Yeah that must suck
@Yamiteru bruh I'm not the smooth brain who wrote this 3000 line Java class with 400 of them being duplicate code that I now have to modify...
@Colby Boucher I understand the the reasoning and believe me I've tried a lot of monitor combinations and after all that I've ended up with just one 16:9 monitor and I'm happy.
@Yamiteru It's not like you're looking at it all at once, but you don't need to scroll so much. Generally something you'd do for a second monitor you leave most of your code on.
This is kind of a silly aspect ratio, but I would like to see classic 4x3 and 5x4 monitors return. They make great second monitors off to the side of a main monitor. A second 16:9 makes you turn too far to the side to see the whole screen. A 4:3 monitor also has more height, so you can match the height of your 16:9 monitor with a smaller display diagonal. For example, a 19.5" 4:3 monitor is the same height as a 24" 16x9.
Running my 30 inch 16:10 at 4:3 ratio.
Yeah I need vertical space, not width - especially when I'm coding. I wanted EIZO's 1:1 monitor and I can trust them on color precision and all, but it's too damn niche and it's always expensive. This one looks great but I bet it won't fly.
We live in the era of dumb aspect ratios. Even this video is made in the stupid 18:9 AR. I'm forced to see black bars up and down because of the idiotic notion that wider is better/more modern.
They didn't just decide to get rid of them, the demand was incredibly small once people started getting wide screens. The bigger issue right now is that non-standard aspect ratios would actually be pretty expensive even if the panels in them were cheap.
@Qimchiy I disagree it wont fit. As reader/programmer, i prefer huge vertical space vs horizontal, to the point i rotate one monitor vertical, but that would fit only one app, or i can use the horizontal to split the editor but then i loose a lot of vertical. I think this LG monitor or a 4:3 would simply be a better solution, i would use it 90" off and still get 2 app side by side AND vertical space. Also for game like RTS or city building game, a square monitor give way better gameplay and i would say even advantage in competitive. In both cases stacking 2 monitor vertically/horizontally is a pain because you get the seams in the middle of your vision
This would be incredible for audio work. I get the host's comment about wanting more width to see the whole song/project, but with my setup in Reaper, this would be incredible for having the mixer and my tracks on one screen. I've never hurt for horizontal space, even on a traditional 16:9 panel, but have always wanted more vertical space
This is DEFINITELY a panel for engineering. CAD, FEA, CFD, or other simulation/analysis work would be WONDERFUL on this monitor.
@Lucien Badoux I like having the entire code visible on a vertical monitor with my debug tools on a separate horizontal monitor
@Joseph Ho That's what having multiple monitors is for.
Wonderful right up to the point you hit share screen in a conference call to show your progress to the customer.
@Steilkurbler When I was kid my father used to work with AutoCAD and they had a super expensive 21" CRT monitor. It took ~15 minutes for it to warm up to be used and they had a tiny other monitor for the log messages, circa 1991.
I do CAD on a 32" 16:9. It's big enough in height, that this one would have no real benefit. with a 32" you'd still have a normal format when you need/want it
"I'm right handed but i'm kind of busy" best quote on LTT
having three of these would actually be amazing considering it would be the same as 2x6 'eyfinity' but without the middle bezels, which also means in games you'll get the full UI unscathed. Even just two of these would be great for productivity, and even only one alone for a full streaming setup (game on bottom, chat etc on top) sounds good.
Would be interesting to see how LG decides to price this thing. It reminds me of those Eizo square monitors, there was one that was 1920x1920 1:1 aspect ratio but it had an MSRP of like $1500. It is pretty funny how more square-like aspect ratios are better for productivity but almost nobody makes them.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I've been eyeballing the Eizo's 1:1 monitor for years now, even contacted them to see if they're ever going to update it - the answer was: "Please be advised, EIZO does not currently have any new 1:1 planned displays to be released at this time.", so I had to give up on Eizo. At least the LG 28MQ780 gets it pretty close to what I want, but I'm also kinda disappointed that it doesn't have a higher resolution, or at least HiDPI mode (which I'm sure can be overridden on MacOS somehow). Let's see how the market react to this one and what LG does with the future models.
@fanstein What you're referring to is basically yield from substrate cost, which is true as long as the vertical number of standard aspect ratio panels cut from a motherglass is even. However, there's still at least two factors as for why OP has a point: a) reduced margins at lower production volumes and b) companies charging more for niche products without much or any competition - just because they can. So the "almost nobody makes them" part is exactly the crux of the matter; we can only hope others will jump on the hype train too, given it ever gets to be one.
i am guess the price won't be so crazy, because it is just two 16:9 stack together, still the usual monitor ratio, will not need a separate production line. I would guess why Eizo 1:1 is exspensive is because its non standard monitor ratio and need a whole new production line for it
Honestly, it looks like it'd be great for a second monitor in a set up. I turn my current second monitor in portrait mode and to have it slightly wider would be amazing. Also, from an artist perspective, it would be great for digital pieces and portraits, or magazine and book design as well.
I always love the impromptu visits from other members of LMG. It reinforces the non-scripted, casual vibe of Short Circuit, and it's always great to hear another opinion on the product as well.
Seems they've started recently doing this considering I don't remember them doing it this much before. Honestly, it's very nice because I really do not like it when it *FEELS* scripted. New Old Top Gear UK with Clarkson, Hammond, and May, along with Monty Python, are the gold standard in how scripted segments should be, and thankfully LMG looks like they are trying something different, esp considering people like me don't like watching LMG content because the humor is often forced and cringe when scripted, and fucking hilarious when unscripted. Feels like they are really starting to hit their stride, which is a welcome change for someone like me who watches LMG content a few times a year.
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I'd imagine this would be good for 3D modeling and design, and like y'all said, as a second or third monitor, this would be great.
I use a vertical screen as a secondary to an ultra wide while working - this would perfectly fit and I’d prefer that aspect ratio to the vertical
I really like it as a 2nd monitor or maybe 3rd. I feel it's the best vertical configuration instead of having a 9:16 like a regular 16:9 monitor in portrait mode.
For gamedev it does sound ideal! Thanks for mentioning it, it's a use case often left out in LTT reviews, understandably as it's not something you do in your day to day. Just for that I might give this screen a try, WFH has made me on the lookout for anything that can help my workflow! Also that aspect ratio looks nice to play retro games without (too much) stretching or black bars!
It's not 4:3 but I'd love to run it through some retro gaming testing. I've found that even just a taller 16:10 makes a big difference so this 16:18 would be great, especially considering how big the panel is. Despite being a productivity designed product, I'm seeing reports that it's 5ms for response time so may not even be that bad for retro.
This is one of those "how did no one ever think of this before?" monitors. I think it would go great bracketing a stacked ultrawide setup or a single large panel if you needed that much screen real estate.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Two of these 16:18 panels flanking my stacked Dell 38" ultrawides would be awesome.
@Kevin Wells yes, i was talking about sim and strategic games that instead would be better served from a squared monitor for surrounding awareness. Also may be for 3d shooter like space sims, where vertical of the game is more important than normal shooter. Surely gonna take weeks to get use to that monitor before it does not feel weird
@lesto12321 Cinema yes, but also gaming. Anything that requires any amount of peripheral vision is so much better served by a 16:9 or wider aspect ratio as they found out using this one
we did think about this, early monitor where 4:3, pretty close to this ratio. Then the Cinema nation attacked
This reminds me of an old 19" monitor I had that was 5:4, if I'm not mistaken. That almost square was weird for games.
seeing these weird aspect ratio screens is so cool and this is especially cool because it allowed for no bezel between two screens where one would normally be
Damn, this monitor is really the programmers dream, able to see your terminal and a decent amount of code🤣😎
@Slade Thornburg Which begs the question why not just a bigger ultra wide or 2? Or 3 samsung odyssey ark's?
I have been using 24" displays in Portrait for years. - I hate having to scroll PDFs or google-docs. - The ultimate imo - would be 3 X 22" 4K monitors in portrait. - so you get 6K on the horizontal and 2K on the vertical. - of course if I can get that as a single panel - even better. - yea - maxLineWidth=120 - newspapers have put text into columns for a reason. - unless you dont care about other people being able to read your code - which is pretty typical for programmers.
@Brian Perrett if you have single lines of code that long on a regular basis i would dread your coding style... even with names that speak for themselves only very few logic statements and comments should ever be this long
I got my ultrawide because at 3840x1600 I could comfortably have two full hd windows side by side (web page, virtual machine etc) and get more lines of text on screen than 1080 allows and there are several good ways to tile it. I like squarer laptop screens because I don't want to look at code through a letterbox but I don't know working with just one of these would compare with multi-monitor or ultra wide.
I remember during the transition to 16:9 from square, I complained because I thought we were losing part of the movies/shows. Then everything moved that way and I had no choice but to move on. Kinda loving this (when on its side). I hope they make another with a higher refresh, oriented on the side!
@Malice The good old days, me and my friends always player cs 1.6 We were very young at the time and most of us sucked at the game but most importantly we had fun
@Malice I still do that with my friends on special occasions lol, actually decided to build an itx build just for it, that and desk space
We were also losing a LOT of resolution when moving onto the 16x9 aspect ratio. I don't think we even had true HD (1080p) available for the general consumer market at *affordable* prices until somewhere around 2009-2010 area. Which, by 2005, we had CRTs displaying @1900x1600 and was just amazing to play on...if you didn't have to move your monitor (which me and my friends did for the LAN parties we used to host; another thing that's been completely killed by the internet and gamers now-a-days are worse off without knowing how it feels to have all your friends play in a massive room and running Quake III, UT2K4, CS1.6, etc. tournaments).
This seems like the best possible second display. I have a 48" C11 and this would be a great companion, more suited to web browser stuff, discord, even a youtube video on top and a browser on the bottom half or something. Very cool.
I'd love to see them in a triple monitor setup
This monitor turned sideways is exactly what i've been asking for (in my head) for ages. LG are telepathists. I don't think it holds up to my U2413 in terms of colour gamut, though, but still great for CAD and most video work especially in AfterFX where on a widescreen monitor if you want to see a decent amount of things in your timeline you end up with a tiny viewport window with a lot of wasted space.
this would actually be a great replacement for my left and or right monitors seems awesome to have next to my gaming monitor for discord, obs, twitchcat, ect
I see this as a side screen, to complement a 32" 4K display, especially when doing web dev and game dev. I've tried using a 27" both in landscape and portrait and it's too much, either too wide or too tall, but this would be ideal. I want one.
I might actually get this for my third monitor, I've always had my second monitor or tv to my left and so want as much as I can on it. Had thought it'd have to invert a monitor and split screen, but this seems way better.
In my experience that flickering happens when the main controller that connects to the video inputs is trying to sync its output to the panel with the driver chip inside the panel itself. It usually happens for a few seconds after turning on a monitor and can happen in older projectors after connecting a signal as well.
Being an arcade guy I'm always interested in monitors that hit closer to a square. We really need a large format 4:3 monitor. Something around the 25 to 27 in. What would be really great if a manufacturer would make a retro panel that includes some really good scaling for retro gaming
I imagine someone might be able to get this to run Mame from a pc with halfway not bad results. Forget running mister or any HDMI console since these conjoined monitors need to run in vsync which introduces hella lag.
Some old 19-20" Dell LCD monitors have 1600x1200 (4:3) native resolution. Yeah, it's not 27", but still pretty decent... and they are cheap, if you can find them. Some of them may need recapping (at least the power section).
@shadowtheimpure I get that, but after a CRT filter, those distortions will be minimized to the point of not being visible. As long as you have it set to scale 4:3 with black bars and not have it stretch to some other ratio.
@lilly Lotte's looks pretty good. You just have to put the work into customizing it to resemble the type of CRT you are familiar with.
More plouffe content pls! I love seeing everyone in short circuits! I think "we need more of this person" about everyone tho! I've never seen someone host a short circuit and not liked it! The vibes are always amazing! LMG does such a good job
It would be great if LG could let your pc recognize it as two monitors to let you sanp windows and play windows to each half screen.
I remember playing Mechwarrior 2 on a Sony CRT in that same ratio as this monitor. And it was perfectly fine. We are just use to wide and ultrawide monitors that is all.
Wow, as a web developer, I think this is the perfect monitor for me. My neck sometimes get tired because of dual monitors so I switched to a single ultrawide, but I still want to reduce my neck movement more so I think this is the monitor that I've been looking for!
this monitor but 144 hz I'd totally buy it , and a option that u could separate the monitor in half so its being recognized as u were connecting 2 monitors instead of just 1
@Kuzushi42 ok. Anyway most old games are low fps to begin with so 100+ Hertz should not matter
@Willem If you know any monitors with squarish aspect ratios and 100hz+ point me at them. I admit I haven't looked that much lately, but my understanding is that taller aspect ratios are almost nonexistent.
@Kuzushi42 ohhh so this aspect ratio is beneficial for you? But anyway I bet there are better options as a main monitor besides a monitor that is actively not ment to be a main monitor.
The GtG is too slow though for my taste personally.
i love square screens.. still have a few 1280x1024 for daily use.. would love an upgrade in resution. For Air Traffic Control they use square screens traditionally. One thing they forget about fps games.. you notice enemies quicker on the vertical axis.
Would've loved to see how some native 4:3 content looks on this thing.
Its amazing for coding. Feels like two vertical 27" monitor
Game creation and Civilization are exactly two use cases I thought of seeing this crazy monitor. This is weird but at the right price I can actually see it selling decently well to make it worth it. They should definitely consider getting rid of that bottom bezel though.
They should have made the top and bottom bezels the same width so it would look good when rotated 90.
@Tehemister you might want to read that back and then reconsider it, maybe delete it.
@iris hell no.... i would rather jump out of a window than having to use an apple device.
@iris did the mac attack you at night or? Imagine attacking a person because he shares his opinion lmao windows sheep
@TheScarvig ??? found the mac user.
This will be a sweet monitor for coding ! hopefully more companies build them in this aspect ratio
I need one of these for an on-location live streaming setup. Having access to levels and other objects on the bottom half with the main preview and scenes above on the top half would be greatly beneficial, as my current workflow relies on a dual stacked monitor set up. Taking one monitor to a job would be far more desired.
This is so weird, and cool, I love it! We need more unusual stuff. I'm here for it
it might not be exactly 4:3 but it's close, so retro gaming would look pretty slick on it I feel. Also, imaging if they did a triple monitor setup with another pair of DualUp monitors!
Oh man, I would love this thing as a second monitor. For both productivity as a secondary screen during gaming, I think it would be awesome! Think about the amount of lines of code I can see... If I did a 9:16 aspect ratio, the lines would get cut off, but this has the width to make up for it!
a split 4k 16:9 monitor would give you 8:9 per side which is the same as the monitor in the video. works wonderfully especially if its a large panel.
@The Round Table you should slash their tires tbh
Thats why 10:16 is the best aspect ratio
This would be awesome to have at work for coding
I’ve been looking for square-ish aspect ratio monitors for my multi-monitor setup. I work a lot in Excel, and I feel like this monitor is exactly what I’m looking for!
I remember seeing a 1920x1920 monitor and thinking 'Must have! Don't know why, but *MUST HAVE!!'* But my head calmed down and figured it offered 1920x1200 & 1920x720 windows that would've worked perfectly for a load of programmes I used. Still want one too and there are a few more manufacturers who make them than when they first appeared.
I would love this as a secondary display
Watching this reminds me of what Samsung showed in CES? I forgot if it was this year or last year, but it was a giant curved ultrawide TV that you can set up vertically so you essentially have 3 curved monitors.
this is actually so perfect as a second monitor. Just waiting to see the price..
Judging by the stand, my guess would be >1000$