If you’re gonna do more gaming for the full review, please mention whether the game is running via Rosetta or metal. Rosetta is going to have an inherent performance hit, so I think it’s a useful frame of reference to have.
@Topet Hernaez why don’t you just use a virtual machine my brother
@IRglo Kullanıcısı but on that same benchmark rtx 3080 is running on direct X API you can't really compare them
@IRglo Kullanıcısı well you are comparing a MBP to an rtx 3080 165w and we are taking about games here.
@Topet Hernaez Where did I say that?
@Treston Dodd is that being salty? I'm telling him to go ahead and buy an MBP for gaming
I like geeks who can see past the Apple fanboyism and Apple anti-fanboyism and critically review Apple's latest hardware offerings.
@Joel Bierman its not entirely strange. If you successfully influence others to align with what you like/dislike, it's more likely to affect that company's bottom line and cause them to course correct in a favorable direction. I believe it's also been shown that simply being blasted with certain viewpoints regularly will influence your opinion. So it isn't entirely pointless to go on internet crusades.
That’s what I’ve been saying about anime traps
The good thing about this is maybe other manufacturers will start making similar chips. but google: "Apple see's software as an inconvenience and backward compatibility as a profit eater." & "Apple Defends Killing OpenGL, OpenCL support" which effectively killed a ton of apps ... just one example of why there is so much dislike.
With these latest offerings I feel like apple fans are excited but oddly more humble, and “apple haters” are pleasantly surprised/impressed for the first time so it all kinda balances out
Maybe I'm just old, but I dislike the lack of backwards compatibility with x86 programs. I know there is Rosetta, but that will only last so long. Still, I have to hand it to Apple, their own chips surpassed what I was expecting.
Linus: "I gamed on m1 max" Also Linus "here's 1 min of gaming In a 16 min vid." Update: chill guys don't hate, it's just friendly and fun criticism.
@DANIEL CHUKWUKERE damn dude...
@Fancy Yahoo scrolled the comments for this. He plays one game from 5 years ago, goes ' ah it is in Ultra settings, so it is running choppy I should turn it down' later it still looks choppy if there was a bit that told you if the settings were actually changed I missed it.
@Justin-time guess you missed the point, not sure even want your talking about marketing wise
I agree with Linus on the type-a port, I use a 2019 MacBook Pro and having to use a SD card reader or a HDMI adapter are minor inconveniences compared to how annoying needing a c-to-a adapter is.
@A-don Quite the shame indeed
@Funko you know the boomers who still buy usb A accessories in 2022 and STILL complain about how laptops are dropping usb A ports lmao y'all piss me off
@A-don "People? What do you mean you people?"
wait. Linus is nice to Apple now?
Plus they make the best computers bar none.
you can hate a company and still appreciate their products .
“GAMED on the M1 Max” Games for 1m20s at the end of the video.
This is why IRglo is getting bad. Tons of these false ads
They still gamed on it
The game he ran also ran under emulation and he doesnt even mention it. And this guy calls himself a tech youtuber
They probably spent more time on the embedded ads in this video than they did on the minuscule section devoted to gaming at the very end of it. The title should have been "Of course we advertised".
@BerserkFury89 Deus Ex is a great game, go play it
this is basically the first Apply product that I am in love with other than the LiDAR sensor and Face Recognition Tech. (Don't like iPhones, just these 2 tech in them). Literally first time Apple made me so much excited for a product like AMD or NVIDIA does. Ports are also back and MagSafe too. Nice Job, actually revolutionary. Hope in 4th,5th Gen Apple Silicons have GPU so good that not just video/sound editing, but 3d rendering would be a child's play.
Man this is one of the best break downs of the features I’ve seen so far and it’s not even the full review. I was in the market for a new high powered system that is capable of some light gaming outside of my gaming rig and this just confirms that this will be able to handle all that I throw at it with all the ports I need plus the so awesome welcome back of MagSafe and the sd card slot! 🙏 and I have to agree the hdmi port for me is a meh addition I would of welcomed like you said a usb type a for more options but hey I’ll still take it! I will be ordering mine very soon thanks Linus!
@Minato thanks I’ll give that a watch now! 👍
@Minato I’ll check that out and see what I think thanks for the information 👍
@Gary Yeah that's what a lot of reviewers fail to point out when they talk about gaming performance. I believe out of like 10 games only 5 supported Apple's silicon. Snazzy labs made a great video about it that goes in depth.
I'd imagine Apple will update OSX to make the notch not take a bite out of the UI. It should be blocking just like the edges of the screen are blocking.
When it comes to the notch thing, I think it's pretty dumb overall but I do think it's better than the iPhone one. It should have had FaceID but what they've done here is extend the display up a little bit on either side of a notch - so you actually GAIN screen real estate by pushing the menu bar up, even if cutting chunks out of displays is kind of a clunky solution to shrinking bezels. The Iphone, however, has the notching cutting INTO the rest of the screen with the status bar being stretched to take up the space. Other phones have the display right to the edge, so it's much more of a negative impact than this (although more useful). Also, I'm pretty sure Apple has the system treat the display as though there is no notch for similar reasons Windows ignores the rounded corners - first, it means they don't need to do any software work and, particularly, there's no risk of needed multiple versions for displays with/without a notch (avoiding it would look super weird if your MacBook doesn't have one). Second, I feel like compatibility could be a factor, I don't know for sure but I suspect some apps wouldn't adapt to rounded corners or the notch properly - either they'd leave a gap across that whole top piece, shrink themselves to fit into the smaller rectangle of the rounded screen or maybe send important elements off the useable space - and again could mean needing extra code to handle the changing screens. It's dumb, but I can't really see a better implementation. But it NEEDS FaceID to justify its existence
Linus flipping the computer like that made me very anxious given his track record
Question is where does Kevin Lee fit into this?
@Happiness is key haha yeah I'm not new to the it game bro. 😁 We are a creative agency and our artists prefer Mac OS. If it was up to me I would just make everyone run Windows but the owner is an apple fanboy 🤣
@KLEPTOROTH Wow, that's terrible if you're working alone like that with that much stuff going on. It's seems you have a case of being understaffed. Also, what are you using MacOS for? Usually most things can be run on Windows and/or Linux. There are only a couple of occasions that I can think of where MacOS is required. By users do you mean employees or customers? I'd ask your boss and/or HR that you need help. If they say you need to do it alone then that's not a fair workplace and you might be overworked, so I'd report that. Of course, all at your discretion though, I know what you've told me. Once again, best of luck!
@Happiness is key the other thing that doesn't help is that I'm running every part of the business's IT infrastructure, ALONE. we have over 100 users, 200 computers, 40 servers... Etc. So anything that makes my life more difficult than it needs to be will incur my wrath. 🤣. Additionally, unlike just being biased just because, I have verifiable and provable reasons for such. I'm not just hating to hate. Either it directly impacts my efficiency at work or pisses me off philosophically, or both 😁.
@Happiness is key yep - which is why I'm letting it out here 😁. And for me it's not just some problems, it's literally bottom to top.
For some reason, when i got my M1, the external displays on the HDMI port was limited to 30hz, not sure if it has been fixed, but it was a software limitation because when i got a usb-c cable to DP, i could run at 165hz
I suspect they keep the hinge from going further back to prevent their old issue, where the hinges got so weak they couldn't hold the monitor properly in place.
I would like to see magsafe pushed to all laptops not just Apple. One of the best experiences together with touchpad I had with 2014 pro back then.
Linus: "Yes, this Macbook meets my daily flipping requirements"
omg that made me so antious
If you’re gonna do more gaming for the full review, please mention whether the game is running via Rosetta or metal. Rosetta is going to have an inherent performance hit, so I think it’s a useful frame of reference to have
It warms the soul to see you keep your integrity. I know there is a lot of noise to the contrary but come on, we all know you fucking hate to say good stuff about Apple, but you still do it because some things like that display you cannot deny are fucking incredible.
Not gonna lie, I've been looking for a solid option for a long mousepad/mat for my long 8ft workbench that I've been using for a desk, and LTT store had pretty solid options for length and depth so I could get one that works best for the space. Thank mr linus
One pro of the notch is that when you use Mac, there are instances where the cursor does not auto hide when watching a video (hbo max comes go mind). It is kinda nice to be able to hide it somewhere if it doesn't go away automatically
I think Linus secretly loves "accidentally" breaking things. He tries so hard 🤣
@Канц沙凯 but in the end it doesn’t even matter
You mean expensive things
@LP 😂😂 100%
And gets so far
@Sky Hylands XD
There’s actually apps that already exist that hide the notch throughout the entire machine not just when apps are open if you so desire, and I’m assuming they decided to throw it on there not just because it’s an easily identifiable machine now if someone only saw the screen at a coffee shop for instance, but I’m assuming they also are putting it there cause they intend to put Face ID into the MacBook pro’s which would make sense since it’s the Pro line of their MacBooks, and they probably were like “well they may as well get used to the notch being there even if we aren’t ready to ship them with Face ID this year. Also another really impressive thing is MKBHD did an entire video edit with 8K red raw footage and you know how much goes into his edits and he said he never audibly heard the fans speed up at all under basically full load.. that’s insanity.. and it doesn’t get hot..
glad they got the message, a Pro is for Pros. though i'd still like to see a single Type A, my DJ mixers all use USB A-B Cables, so.. it's either dongles or someone has to make a Type-C to Type-B cable for them! the return of actual I/O is a welcome return, and magsafe, the notch fad needs to die though - i'd rather have a shorter screen, if i had to use one of these i'd probably end up trying to find a way to just lose that section of the screen entirely, Notches/screen intrusions are not great for OCD.
5:52 In my opinion not 16:10 but *3:2 is actually the perfect aspect ratio for work!* There are devices from Acer, Huawei, Microsoft, ... and I hope there will be more in the future! 16:10 is still better than 16:9 though. I had a 16:10 Windows PC monitor for a long time.
I'm cool with 3 thunderbolt ports since they all still double as charger ports, however, it does need a USB A port, especially since it has a full sized HDMI port, instead of the mini one. And since it has a dedicated charging port again, you don't really need that 3rd thunderbolt port.
I used the SD card reader in my laptop this year to update maps for the onboard navigation system in my '2019 Mazda. I rarely use google maps, cause the onboard system is good enough, and it's integrated better with car's OS, HUD, etc. It's nice to have a full sized card reader in a laptop, along with some USB-A's, so I can plug in a pendrive, or other devices, without any hassle.
@Siana Gearz see, I don't have a USB SD card reader lying around, and I don't know anyone that does - maybe someone like a pro photographer would have a bunch of them (or someone that's been living in Apple's port-less ecosystem for years), but an average Joe probably won't. I do have some old USB 1.0 pendrive-like MicroSD reader, but that wouldn't help me with the full size SD card I needed to access recently. A 'Pro' designation, or Pro Max even, should indicate that a professional can use it out-of-the-box, and that would be hard to do with the last year's 2-thunderbolt Mbooks - you can't even plug in a normal USB-A pendrive to them, and that's a common real world use case (something I do a few times a week at work). This year's models are a definite improvement in that regard, and everyone's been raving about the reintroduction of ports in the reviews. Finally a product I can recommend.
@Pio Bu Most people will find an SD-Card reader or 3 or 5 if they just rummage in their stuff. Most USB-C hub manufacturers just chuck one into the end of the hub, that's nice as well, and not quite as easy to lose. I think having an SD-Card port on the machine is nice, but to be kept in mind that these computers specifically in this video are somewhat minituarised and slimmed down and densely packed, space actually is an issue. What ports one may wish for instead? Maybe more USB. I don't think you can combine alt modes, once a USB port is dedicated as a display output (displayport alt mode via USB-C socket), you can't have actual USB connectivity on it, can you? So if you max out the display connections on this one, you cannot connect any more peripherals, if that's the case.
@Siana Gearz wouldn't it be more silly if I had to buy a stupid dongle just for a single use? Then I'd probably toss it somewhere, since I'm not using it every day, lose it, and then I'd have to inevitably buy another one the next time I needed it. I got 3 USB-As, 1 USB-C, HDMI, Ethernet port, mini jack, and an SD card reader (unless I'm forgetting something) - I'm not sacrificing space for anything.
I don't think something you have used once is all that vital at all. If you're plugging things in all the time though, that's a solid usecase, and those have been mentioned here - embedded hardware devs, people with video drones and stuff. Even people who 3D print, though that's kind of a temporary thing for most i guess before putting a Pi-based wireless spooler on their printer. Like for sure more connectivity is always better, but the space is limited, so if you aren't using the port a lot, wouldn't you rather instead have a port that you do use a lot or can't replace with a simple USB device?
As an Apple user I can say Apple really needs to step up their game on ... gaming. If Apple Arcade is going to be their thing, they should purchase AAA-studios and create first-party content.
Agreed, just... maybe not on the purchasing bit. It's not unlikely that they would basically turn games made by said studios pre-purchase exclusive to Apple Arcade.
I really love Apple Arcade. There's a lot of games from Nintendo Switch available on Apple Arcade like what the golf, pathless, last campfire. There's also hyper light driver (tho thats just the App Store)
1:38 It’s not W/h (“watt per hour”), it’s Wh (watt x hour) E.g. If you’re using 50 watts you can run the 100 Wh battery for 2 hours.
@WouterZtube Exactly! almost like he's playing fool.
And after seeing Linus for years you have doubt he doesn't know this? He actually says it right while the graphic says it differently
@Robert Neve that's exactly what he said. 🤦🏻
@WorldTravel1518 you need to read what he wrote first.
I am actually being shocked he did that mistake.
I'm really impressed with the gaming performance!
Apple should start a new division that just ports and optimizes AAA games to M1 hardware.
@HeyItsHades The argument of "lmao just buy a PC" isn't even remotely ok, as funny as it is. People want to be able to enjoy the same games as everyone else on the hardware that *they* own. I'm sure 99% of people don't have the money to just go buy a gaming rig to play something like LOSP2 or Tomb Raider; they're gonna install Steam, buy the game, and then be pissed when it runs like dogshit. The solution isn't just to tell people to "go get a PC", it's to create the resources necessary to let *everyone* game on their computer/laptop. As for the demand issue, Apple has the money. They don't need to be shown that there's a market for gaming on Apple hardware when they have practically unlimited funding and can do whatever they please, realistically. No hate! Sorry if this sounded rude as hell, didn't mean for it to come off like that :) (Oh, and as for the professionals vs. gamers argument: IMO, it shouldn't really matter. Having hardware that's powerful in ANY situation isn't a detriment, and the issues we're talking about here are mostly software sided, which *shouldn't* be an issue, but Apple is being very stubborn.)
They never will because there is simply not enough demand.
@Abhi Dahiya yeah you shouldn’t buy a MBP for gaming. Other than that, it’s a pretty great machine.
But they won't.
@Nezunish - Years ago they also had decent gaming capabilities via boot camp and eGPU. But those ways are now gone because of Apple compulsive obsession for having captive users and to become incompatible with everything else.
FYI, y'all messed the units up at 1:40. A Watt-hour is labeled as Wh, not W/h. Watts per hour would signify an acceleration in energy usage. Watt-hours is a unit of energy. In this case, how much energy can be stored in the battery. So, a 100Wh battery can put off 100W over 1 hour or it can put off 20W over 5 hours.
I literally should time travel and see what apple come up with next, because the way they are headed they are scilently making the gaming products…
If Linux gets running on these machines any time soon.... possibly the perfect computer for me I can’t imagine what kind of performance the new M1’s are able to push. Apple is really doing something special with their silicon.
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Fun fact; this 'ideal aspect ratio' of 16:10 has been the standard on the 15" Macbook Pros from 2008 onward (not sure about the ones before the 'unibody' design)
I think it would be nice to have some gaming focused videos in 60fps. Even if the A-Roll is 30, the actual game would be better in 60.
oh i missed you tanking my monitor. its the 27GL850-B its not a shit monitor by any standard.
@Lvl 5 Monk never said personal opinion was disregarded. gemini man was great, didnt need to have my pc consume huge amounts of power to get it to a watchable frame rate.
@iris lmao ok bud. Gemini man was shot in 60fps, and it is the worst looking movie I have seen in my entire life. You are definitively wrong. More fps is great in games, movies look like shit at high fps
@Lvl 5 Monk no you just haven't seen the grass that's greener
I think the issue is with Apple Pay, on your Phone or iPad, you have to authorise purchases by looking at the screen then pressing the power button to authorise a payment. This is to prevent scammers/unauthorised purchases. So on the Mac, you'd still be pressing a button to authorise a purchase..
Linus: "Microsoft, in their most recent Surface device, actually has rounded corners and you can end up hiding the cursor behind it." Me: "My monitor doesn't have rounded corners and I can hide the cursor where you hid yours!"
@WorldTravel1518 Yep. It probably does the same thing you're talking about, but since the screen physically isn't there, it most likely doesn't show up due to that screen just not being there to show it. Does anyone know how it behaves not on a corner but still on the right side of the screen? I don't own a Microsoft Surface to test it on.
You actually can't. The pixel at the tip of the cursor is still inside the monitor, but isn't with the rounded corners
Exactly, it has always been this way, I don't know what he's on about
It would been nice if the top and bottom had milled grips so that carrying in one hand was secure. The aluminium body is well suited to doing this. And the weight and expense of the 14” and 16” warrants a little bit of engineered finesse- last seen in the G3 Pismo in 1999.
"as long as you got two hands" - this is actually a great consideration. I wonder how people with disabilities will work with those laptops. Given that apple os's are more cool for those people and they really like em.
Minor detail, but Watt-Hour is Wh (watt multiplied by hours, essentially the energy it can deliver in total), not W/h (which would mean energy per second per hour...?)
@Vuk Psodorov 1 W is equal to 1 Joule / second, so it shouldn't be hard to convert back and forth for whatever we need. We can just multiply battery capacity by 3.6 and get kJ value of that, no more confusion with *hour or /hour, just pure energy value.
@igor that could make sense, if the power draw for electronics (such as lightbulbs, motors, PC compontents etc.) was also measured in Joules too. that being said, i'm not sure how easily you'd be able to get current/voltage calculations out of it.
we should just use Joules to avoid any confusion
regarding the comments about mAh - yes, it's a handy unit regarding current storage, but it helps to stipulate what battery type & voltage is associated to fully understand what is going on regarding it's power delivery capability. E.g. 500mAh 3 Cell LiPo (x3 4.2V) vs 500mAh 2 Cell NiCd (x2 1.41V)
@Vuk Psodorov nah
When my business takes off I'll be buying one of these/or a windows machine that's the same size and just as nice looking. Being able to run my business from a powerful laptop instead of my phone will be a god send