Note: It looks like we didn't try out the touch controls enough or actually use them correctly. Maybe we'll give this a more in-depth look at LTT. Reply back on precisely what questions you have about them, and like this comment, so we can make the case to the powers to be!
Kees
how future proof is it? like is this something i can buy and not have to buy new headphones in 3 years?
Charles Ford
Please do an in depth on these, I have been waiting on these to drop since I got the 3rd Gen earbuds from Sony!
Brad
For products that many would use daily for hours and hours on end ( Personally I can clock 12 hours a day in headphones), I think the feedback to this video highlights that you can't half ass it. Its serious coin, for something most can only buy once.. In a deeper dive, I'd like to see how they do switching to a PC,Linux,Mac, how do your ears feel after wearing them for an entire work day... Which features stop working if any when used on a PC vs a phone with the APP.
Charles Ford
What is the latency like? Would they be alright for playing non-competitive games on PC?
Ben Mazzola
Could you look at how fast the quick attention mode is and how these compare to the Bose 700s? Thanks
Jordan Martinetti
I've had the XM4s for a while now and noticed right away a couple problems in this video. The "Quick Attention Mode" needs physical contact, not just hovering your hand over the right earcup. That's why it wasn't activiating. Also, play/pause is a double tap. The stuttering at the end was probably the QAM mode activating because it was the closest action to what Linus was doing.
Kumar Sagar
I now get a feeling that there are a few too many instances these days of him being cool with just winging it and his heart not being in the game. Too casual an approach I'd say if he is missing out on such simple features or can't give it another minute to understand.
Bryan Edition TV
I commented the same thing ^^
Citrus
@ROFLKNIEFGOESSLIEC I personally have the xm3s and if I am understanding you correctly, I too have the same issue, but for only a second or so at a time on average every hour. I’m not sure how you use your headphones when they’re in wired mode, but mine fixes when I just spin around the connector into the pc, which at least to me, suggests that it’s some sort of interference issue. If you were running it on a phone/laptop, it’d make more sense that this is the case, and it would actually be on the manufacturer to stop the interference (unless you count getting a thicker cable as being on Sony). But that’s just a theory and I could be completely off
The Recon007
Ya there were a few others too like in the app they probably didn't turn on "DDEE HX" which uncompressed the compressed sound file to give the actual fine tuned detail in the sound and this is a new product so with software updates it should only get better.
Grant Defayette
Linus doesn’t like to follow instructions.
Dan B
For what it's worth I would ditch this video and do it again. It's a really poor - and surprising - effort from the whole team. It's ridiculously unfair to Sony - with whom I have no dog in the fight - to piss about with controls that you simply haven't taken proper time to read about, thus making them look substandard, then seemingly not having any proper music lined up to use, leaving you with random Disney songs and a meme. Then Linus compares them with Sennheisers which cost literally double the Sonys. LTT wouldn't be so disparaging about a graphics card with a similar price discrepancy. And finally I'm not sure what Linus was doing in this video. I know SS's are meant to be more bite-size/early impressions but this smacked of not caring about the video, the product and that he was late for a meeting. A bit shit, all things considered.
Dipanjan Pal Chowdhury
This is not a REVIEW, this is just an unboxing and first hand experience video, all short circuits contents are like this, so it's nothing new.
Destroyer 645
I love ltt, been watching for over 5 years now... But this video was just not very great. Really shoulda been more constructive in analyzing first experience. Markus does a great review.
killzone866
@Don H This channel has never been for reviews.
James_08_07
@Yakuzaka1412 It literally has a "final thoughts" section mate.
Tiago Fonseca
Huge fan of LTT over the years but this is probably one of the worst videos they have done, I have the XM4s and Linus didn't know how to use many of the headphones features (it's totally normal for someone that is testing this headphones for the first time but someone should have warn him or teach him how to use quick atention, double tap, hovering your hand on the right side etc etc...). Sorry if I am being somewhat rude, just wanted Linus to experience all the features properly and know his opinion!
up urbum
I agree, very bad review
Good Vibrations
Loads of his videos are like this now. Mostly just fluff that won't help your purchasing decision at all.
Mark Brown
This isn't a review. It's a first hand impression video.
Humberto Hernandez
True. We understand Linus doesn't have 50h days so he can't invest much time on videos but, come on! I know this is an unbox channel that is spontaneous and that is cool but there's a fine line dividing spontaneous and unprepared-for.
Cyba IT
This was very low effort, you're right man. Linus getting a little complacent here
Mehdi GhiasiPour
I have the XM4s and I can tell you most of the problems that Linus had are not actually problems, let me explain: Speak to chat can be activated or deactivated by holding 2 fingers on the touch pad. The deactivation time and sensitivity are also adjustable. For quick attention mode ,you need to hold your hand over the touchpad and touch it not just holding it near it. Play and pause are double tap not single tap. The custom EQs are there so you can customize the eq presets and have them saved. The manual one is for making your own eq from start, at the end, you have 3 customized EQs that are saved in the app. For volume, you can touch and hold to go up or just swipe fast. I think it was the iphone that had problems with registering the adjustments since that works fine on my XM4 on Android. There is also a pop up pair thing like air pods and google assistant on Android as well. Also fiy: There is a specific noise canceling mode for wind, just move the slider in the app one step to the right. You can also switch the ambient mode to focus on voices
幣傢伙
Volume adjust no problem on my iPhone!
Chris Turner
Yeah, I've had no issues with using the xm4's. Also, the long pause is needed with the speak to chat function so it doesn't turn on when the other person talks but you can just double tap to play if you don't want to wait.
Okay DETar
I really appreciate how not professional dbrands relationship with ltt is, they may still be a souless corporation deep down, but they are at least an entertaining one.
JT667
I suspicion that Dbrand operates a center in the same neighborhood as the LMG offices (Yes I know LMG is in Surrey and Dbrand HQ is in Toronto, but it would make sense for Dbrand to have some kind of center that serves the west coast since Toronto can serve the east coast)
Cyba IT
Just clever marketing. Look how much more engagement they've got from Linus being cheeky and them giving quirky "gifts".
Shaun Young
To add: dBrand is a souless corporation. So is LMG. But they both seem to be led by pretty good people.
Anomaly Detection Algorithm
@Jason He ok that's funny 😂
Jason He
@Lucian Andries Have you seen some of dbrand’s marketing messages? I won a giveaway from them and asked for a picture along the prize and they drew a cat with middle fingers
Raynman Plays
I like how dbrand sent Linus some really smelly stuff and were just like, "We don't have smell-o-vision yet, so it's not an issue." And Linus 100% made it an issue.
Akky Streams
As others have said I also picked up on the somewhat wrong way Linus was using these, the touch controls generally require a purposeful touch rather than the spastic flick you see Linus doing, this is to prevent accidental activation and from my experience with the xm4's the controls are perfectly responsive once you adjust, and you know, actually use the right inputs which he wasn't doing. The main problem i ever had with the touch sensitivity is one of my own making in that i sleep with my headphones on and i'm a side sleeper so if i dont turn off the touch sensor control panel before i sleep in the app, the ambient mode can activate lol. Pretty sure Linus didn't daily drive the whxm4's but the wfxm4 IEM's and thats why he's hovering over with his hand to try and activate the quick chat mode, which is not how the whxm4 work. Pretty disappointed in the "non- review" because you know these are going to be a nice pair of headphones especially at this price point they will probably be decently competitive. I call bull on his complaints about how his voice sounds when in noise suppressing mode, his description is unintelligible because he is trying to be funny, as long as he doesn't sound like he's speaking through a phone its good, the XM4's do this well and its hard to believe these do it worse, not sure what he expects from hearing his voice through the device. As for their sound signature, again i do not understand his complaint here, he says they sound good, they sound rich and full etc but makes that a negative because they aren't audiophile accurate and rambles on about his nan, like what does age have to do with it how good they sound? The whxm4s genuinely sound pretty great and so again i find it hard to believe there is an actual complaint to be made with the xm5's at this point.
vinnytucks87
As a user of the software some of the issues can be customized in the software. The speech detect can be turned off or lowered to 5 seconds
Samuel Dozio
I've had the XM3 for something like 3 years now and I can say they've been my best tech purchase ever. I've been using them daily and the battery still lasts very long, the noise cancellation is top and the materials haven't worn out (I cleaned them only 1 or 2 times). I'd instantly buy them again. I don't like the look of those XM5 tho, it looks like they are wider and more bulky
Englandflick
I think mine sounds better as the time goes by. Still very conflicted 😐 if I will grab this or wait for the XM6 as the “unfoldadbility “ Apple trend is very cumbersome specially if I carry it inside my small mail man bag 💼. Deal breaker
Bruman
7:38 - If anyone seeing this already has XM3's or above, when swiping up/down for volume control you can swipe and hold and it will continue increasing/decreasing the volume. I learned this a week ago after owning the 3's for 3 years 😂
Ma2esticJacob
Oh my god, 3 years with XM3s. I literally just use the volume controls on my phone to stop me from looking like an idiot
sudheer ram
wow
mrAngles
Never knew this, had the xm4 a while thanks
enkvlogs
Tx lmao
Sinus Lebastian
@dakunclear noice!
Kritacul
Sony’s headphone have been getting better and better in the last five years. And I have picked Sony headphones over Bose the last two times. The quality, sound and comfort is just so good now. Plus the price is very reasonable as well.
Thaumalous
2 different processors is better than 1 improved one because it means that each ear cup gets a designated processor. This might give faster response times alongside better isolation due to each ear cup being guaranteed to be independently noise isolated.
Thaumalous
@Lizard King 🤡 hypocrite
Lizard King
@Thaumalous God I love the moronic comments any LTT video attracts. 'less data going through the headband' I literally laughed out loud
A Day as a Breese
But also adds weight, power consumption, syncing issues, etc.
A Day as a Breese
But also adds weight, power consumption, syncing issues, etc.
This channel is for commenting
@Steve Muzak this is stupid argument lol Two Bluetooth device meant that it need to sync both of it in tune. Given it already has wire run for battery to both side it is bit weird to see why they don't run data along side with it.
Captain Candycorn
I was at costco a year ago and saw the WH1000XM3 on sale for $120. I asked if something was wrong with them, they said nope its just the last one in stock, so I bought it. I didnt know anything about this stuff and its been going strong since, then I found out this series is actually a really good set of headphones. So I kinda stumbled into it and am glad I did, everything I have compared them to sounds worse XD
Saviourself 182
Definitly not the momentum 3. Theyre in a different word they are just not comfortable to wear...
Omega Computing
@a a Best Headphones under $1000 and bluetooth doesn't add up mate
golden age gamer
@a a I wouldn't say they are near the best, they might be really good but compared too $900 ones they aren't nothing
DxCBuG
very good deal for XM3s
Majid Abdelal
best headset i have is xm4, i own the over the ear and inner. everything else sucks compared to these, anc is amazing and the sound is good and the bass is heavy. the sony app is amazing and we get a case instead of a purse like airpad pro titty purse thing. oh it also has a power button, i know when it is turned off and isn't heavy as shit.
Kk
Linus: Wants a narrower headband 4:33 Also Linus: "They're a bit tight around my neck" 12:35
daniel maxim
Linus, you can't expect analytical sound when you connect them to an iPhone. I know the LDAC connection won't make them sound 10 times better but it makes a difference
C B
@M. AKIF Anyone saying that there isn't a difference, I would implore you to get either the WF-1000xm4 or WH-1000xm5, get a list of your favorite 15-20 songs that have some parts that stress the higher end of the spectrum, and do some A/B testing between AAC Compression and LDAC. I promise you will hear a difference if your ears are tunned enough.
M. AKIF
Lmao, you think codecs would even make the slightest effect to the tuning of the FR? LOL. You can't expect "analytical sound" out of ANY WH and WF-Series headphones, it's just the nature of their existence to have a v-shaped tuning because that's what most consumers are accustomed to. You can always use parametric EQ like EQ APO or AutoEQ via Wavelet to get somewhat close to "neutral/analytical" target response such as Diffuse-Field or Harman OE.
Salty Maud
If the previous iterations are of any indication, they will sound just as disappointing even when you drive them wired from a good source, bypassing the built in electronics. They're not exactly good headphones. But they don't need to be, they just need to be good _bluetooth active noise cancelling_ headphones. If you just want good headphones, you're not buying these, or any bluetooth ANC cans for that matter.
C B
Yeah I was like "Ah man...he's using an iPhone for the first impressions 😔"
Chocoretto
Probably tuning. Sony’s wireless lineups always had wonky tuning compared to their wired siblings.
workthosemuscles
I own a pair of XM4s AND a pair of MDR-A1 and even though I've been using the XM4s for the past year and a half due to the convenience of the wireless/bluetooth/Noise canceling features, I'm always impressed with the quality of the drivers on the MDR-A1. Even thought they cost roughly the same on purchase date, you lose in sound quality what you gain in features (ANC, wireless, voicecall, etc). Hands down, a better sound experience with the "featureless" MDR-A1 headphones. That said, I'm still happy to see some improvements on the latest model but I wish they would of focused a little more on the drivers instead of the software tuning and additional microphones. I would definitely pay 100-200$ more for a pair of XM4s with MDR-A1 drivers over a pair of XM5s!!
Zachary Dennett
I love the aux out and the included cord in my XM3's. I know you guys kind of tease it a bit, but recently it was really nice to use them for an inflight movie on an airplane when I don't have to use the super shitty complementary earbuds. The XM3's also only Bluetooth connect to one device (Huge upgrade in the XM4s and 5s) at a time so at work I have my set Bluetooth paired to my phone and then when I need to hop on a zoom call I just plug in the aux cable.
Azhari Arif
My guy the aux is for lossless codec support.
apc
yup air travel is a target market for noise canceling headphones, thus the cord. my XM4's even came with an airline adapter.
Jonathan ZJ
Following the instructions helps, as does tuning the eq in the app. I've had several pairs of this series of headphones and have been consistently very impressed/happy with them
MrRedRye
Is there any way to enable the EQ in the app while also using one of the HD Bluetooth modes? As soon as I try to use LDAC or AptX HD it disables the EQ.
Rackhage
Yeah shortcircuit is really a very lazy milking channel at this point
Classic Red Eye
On Android there's an app called wavelet. It automatically creates a perfectly flat pre eq for each device. Works amazingly on the xm3/4s
Aethid
I can’t recommend this highly enough. In fact, the lack of such a system wide parametric EQ has become a deal breaker for me for the iPhone. iPhones have shit audio in comparison to android because of this.
R S
Been using XM2 and XM4 forever and love it. My only issue with Sony headphones is the sound. It doesn't sound anywhere close to Bose IMO. Only thing that has me going back.
bulut cagdas
What I don't like with some of these wireless headphones is that the software for controlling the thing is not available on your PC. It's like it never occurred to the devs that people would want to use their headphones with things other than their cell phones.
Nightfly
Eh? I use them with my PC, and grab my phone if I want to change something. I mean, you have your phone with you... Why would I want to do that on my PC? The app of my fridge or washing machine isn't on PC either, that's not an issue. Why is this?
ultra L2
Yeah I have Sony buds Thankfully you can just tap to change between noise cancelling
C L
I suppose they figure everyone's using it with *at least* a phone, but only a certain percentage with their PCs. Would be nice though, I agree. Might *require* signing in though for settings, wouldn't it?
Snichy
You can tell tech has moved on so much that it took until the last 2 mins of the video to test the actual primary reason for this gadget: the sound quality!
Bruno Lopes
Damn, those are incredibly beautiful. I have the XM3’s and they still hold up hella well. When I switch, I’m definitely going with Sony again.
MrFxpEdits
Props to the editor on this video for editing the audio, when the music would have resumed as Linus put the headphones back on, etc
Tsz Fung Li
It's really amazing how close they've gotten the colours of all of these different material. Except the printed one
Talon24
12:15 Assuming the UI works the same as the previous version I had at work, what you did there was using the quick-ambiance feature (holding on to the side, not levitating the hand in front of it), play/pause is double-tap
Ben Mazzola
Linus, I feel like you would have enjoyed these headphones more if you'd read the instructions in the app that tell you how to pause, how to play, and how to use quick attention mode. It did say, and you did not do what it said
James_08_07
It really is a terrible video. Unsubbed.
Bigjeffrey123
@Yair Lopez Poveda well review quality went downstairs with video quantity. Thats why ltt is in no way the place to go for reviews.
ME10920
Half arsed review
Tom Baker
@Gabriel G That looked so stupid when he held it next to it instead of touching it
MYZ
@Jyn Yee How to make it more obvious? So you expect the product label every features on the headset itself? basically you want your headsets covered with words and symbols and logos for every function and features they have? Whats the manual for? This is not a plug and play cheap headphone with physical buttons and no extra features.
glowingmarshmellowpo
I've had XM4s for about 6 months now. They're my daily drivers for everything. School, leisure listening, the gym, and on transit. The touch controls are sick and the noise cancellation is solid. One of the best deals for the price imo.
Stephen Jordan
I have the XM4's since they came out, and I've loved them. I use Viper4android as my EQ (with the in-app automatic adjustments made for my ear shape, if that actually does anything.) The only gripe I have with the XM4's is they are awful for taking phone calls, everyone always says I sound like I'm underwater or really quiet, even indoors. They also don't appear to work at all on Windows 11 when using Teams for calls. Only thing that would get me to upgrade to the XM5 is the improved microphones, but I would need to test it in person I think.
Deathbybandaid
For the new labs, you should get mannequin heads with microphone ears to provide justifiable audio data
Peter Fejfar
These headphones are better used with a player that supports LDAC. Using AAC on the iPhone degrades them a bit.
ANTE
@Checo Weco at this price point Sennheiser HD600
Checo Weco
@ANTE Which headphones would you recommend?
ANTE
I mean if you care about audio quality these probably aren't the best choice for you. Can't wait for the audio frequency response curve to be measured.
Neoxon
A shame that these don’t fold for easier storage like the XM4s do (though at least the case still makes sense, unlike the AirPods Max), but they definitely still look great. That aside, it feels weird that it’s been a good long while since the XM4s came out.
leebenningfield
@gorzius that's good to know, I was considering replacing my xm3 with xm4 as well
Steve Muzak
My XM4s snaped because that folding mechanism wasn’t strong enough.
gorzius
@Anthony Lee Thanks, but I probably won't be getting the MX5 because of the lack of foldability.
a a
... foldability means more moving parts more moving parts mean earlier and easier failures no foldability no svivel no adjustability just two cans, a wire and, a thick metal band to connect them thank you
Anthony Lee
@gorzius Important to note that Sony makes you choose between using LDAC and multipoint on the XM4 and XM5s. So if you use multipoint, you're stuck with AAC/SBC.
beep boop
I opted to skip out on the xm4's since my xm3's are still working great, however the only real gripe I have is that the 3.5 on the headset was somewhat keyed (it was recessed just enough to not allow other cables I had to seat completely)
Jesper Monsted
I hope the microphones are actually useful when there's anything even remotely like a wind blowing, unlike my XM3's.
Kumar Sagar
Watch the CNET review. They have covered in-call noise canceling and it is nothing less than impressive.
braver1234
Have you tried wind cancelation mode?
Bob Corn
Absolutely love the fact that the buttons we had before are still in the same location. Could have added some new ones tho.
Madison Mark
These look really fuckin' nice. Would love a pair.
Mike Nguyen
The problem that the Sonys had for me was that the cups were never deep enough so my ears would always end up touching the drivers
Note: It looks like we didn't try out the touch controls enough or actually use them correctly. Maybe we'll give this a more in-depth look at LTT. Reply back on precisely what questions you have about them, and like this comment, so we can make the case to the powers to be!
how future proof is it? like is this something i can buy and not have to buy new headphones in 3 years?
Please do an in depth on these, I have been waiting on these to drop since I got the 3rd Gen earbuds from Sony!
For products that many would use daily for hours and hours on end ( Personally I can clock 12 hours a day in headphones), I think the feedback to this video highlights that you can't half ass it. Its serious coin, for something most can only buy once.. In a deeper dive, I'd like to see how they do switching to a PC,Linux,Mac, how do your ears feel after wearing them for an entire work day... Which features stop working if any when used on a PC vs a phone with the APP.
What is the latency like? Would they be alright for playing non-competitive games on PC?
Could you look at how fast the quick attention mode is and how these compare to the Bose 700s? Thanks
I've had the XM4s for a while now and noticed right away a couple problems in this video. The "Quick Attention Mode" needs physical contact, not just hovering your hand over the right earcup. That's why it wasn't activiating. Also, play/pause is a double tap. The stuttering at the end was probably the QAM mode activating because it was the closest action to what Linus was doing.
I now get a feeling that there are a few too many instances these days of him being cool with just winging it and his heart not being in the game. Too casual an approach I'd say if he is missing out on such simple features or can't give it another minute to understand.
I commented the same thing ^^
@ROFLKNIEFGOESSLIEC I personally have the xm3s and if I am understanding you correctly, I too have the same issue, but for only a second or so at a time on average every hour. I’m not sure how you use your headphones when they’re in wired mode, but mine fixes when I just spin around the connector into the pc, which at least to me, suggests that it’s some sort of interference issue. If you were running it on a phone/laptop, it’d make more sense that this is the case, and it would actually be on the manufacturer to stop the interference (unless you count getting a thicker cable as being on Sony). But that’s just a theory and I could be completely off
Ya there were a few others too like in the app they probably didn't turn on "DDEE HX" which uncompressed the compressed sound file to give the actual fine tuned detail in the sound and this is a new product so with software updates it should only get better.
Linus doesn’t like to follow instructions.
For what it's worth I would ditch this video and do it again. It's a really poor - and surprising - effort from the whole team. It's ridiculously unfair to Sony - with whom I have no dog in the fight - to piss about with controls that you simply haven't taken proper time to read about, thus making them look substandard, then seemingly not having any proper music lined up to use, leaving you with random Disney songs and a meme. Then Linus compares them with Sennheisers which cost literally double the Sonys. LTT wouldn't be so disparaging about a graphics card with a similar price discrepancy. And finally I'm not sure what Linus was doing in this video. I know SS's are meant to be more bite-size/early impressions but this smacked of not caring about the video, the product and that he was late for a meeting. A bit shit, all things considered.
This is not a REVIEW, this is just an unboxing and first hand experience video, all short circuits contents are like this, so it's nothing new.
I love ltt, been watching for over 5 years now... But this video was just not very great. Really shoulda been more constructive in analyzing first experience. Markus does a great review.
@Don H This channel has never been for reviews.
@Yakuzaka1412 It literally has a "final thoughts" section mate.
Huge fan of LTT over the years but this is probably one of the worst videos they have done, I have the XM4s and Linus didn't know how to use many of the headphones features (it's totally normal for someone that is testing this headphones for the first time but someone should have warn him or teach him how to use quick atention, double tap, hovering your hand on the right side etc etc...). Sorry if I am being somewhat rude, just wanted Linus to experience all the features properly and know his opinion!
I agree, very bad review
Loads of his videos are like this now. Mostly just fluff that won't help your purchasing decision at all.
This isn't a review. It's a first hand impression video.
True. We understand Linus doesn't have 50h days so he can't invest much time on videos but, come on! I know this is an unbox channel that is spontaneous and that is cool but there's a fine line dividing spontaneous and unprepared-for.
This was very low effort, you're right man. Linus getting a little complacent here
I have the XM4s and I can tell you most of the problems that Linus had are not actually problems, let me explain: Speak to chat can be activated or deactivated by holding 2 fingers on the touch pad. The deactivation time and sensitivity are also adjustable. For quick attention mode ,you need to hold your hand over the touchpad and touch it not just holding it near it. Play and pause are double tap not single tap. The custom EQs are there so you can customize the eq presets and have them saved. The manual one is for making your own eq from start, at the end, you have 3 customized EQs that are saved in the app. For volume, you can touch and hold to go up or just swipe fast. I think it was the iphone that had problems with registering the adjustments since that works fine on my XM4 on Android. There is also a pop up pair thing like air pods and google assistant on Android as well. Also fiy: There is a specific noise canceling mode for wind, just move the slider in the app one step to the right. You can also switch the ambient mode to focus on voices
Volume adjust no problem on my iPhone!
Yeah, I've had no issues with using the xm4's. Also, the long pause is needed with the speak to chat function so it doesn't turn on when the other person talks but you can just double tap to play if you don't want to wait.
I really appreciate how not professional dbrands relationship with ltt is, they may still be a souless corporation deep down, but they are at least an entertaining one.
I suspicion that Dbrand operates a center in the same neighborhood as the LMG offices (Yes I know LMG is in Surrey and Dbrand HQ is in Toronto, but it would make sense for Dbrand to have some kind of center that serves the west coast since Toronto can serve the east coast)
Just clever marketing. Look how much more engagement they've got from Linus being cheeky and them giving quirky "gifts".
To add: dBrand is a souless corporation. So is LMG. But they both seem to be led by pretty good people.
@Jason He ok that's funny 😂
@Lucian Andries Have you seen some of dbrand’s marketing messages? I won a giveaway from them and asked for a picture along the prize and they drew a cat with middle fingers
I like how dbrand sent Linus some really smelly stuff and were just like, "We don't have smell-o-vision yet, so it's not an issue." And Linus 100% made it an issue.
As others have said I also picked up on the somewhat wrong way Linus was using these, the touch controls generally require a purposeful touch rather than the spastic flick you see Linus doing, this is to prevent accidental activation and from my experience with the xm4's the controls are perfectly responsive once you adjust, and you know, actually use the right inputs which he wasn't doing. The main problem i ever had with the touch sensitivity is one of my own making in that i sleep with my headphones on and i'm a side sleeper so if i dont turn off the touch sensor control panel before i sleep in the app, the ambient mode can activate lol. Pretty sure Linus didn't daily drive the whxm4's but the wfxm4 IEM's and thats why he's hovering over with his hand to try and activate the quick chat mode, which is not how the whxm4 work. Pretty disappointed in the "non- review" because you know these are going to be a nice pair of headphones especially at this price point they will probably be decently competitive. I call bull on his complaints about how his voice sounds when in noise suppressing mode, his description is unintelligible because he is trying to be funny, as long as he doesn't sound like he's speaking through a phone its good, the XM4's do this well and its hard to believe these do it worse, not sure what he expects from hearing his voice through the device. As for their sound signature, again i do not understand his complaint here, he says they sound good, they sound rich and full etc but makes that a negative because they aren't audiophile accurate and rambles on about his nan, like what does age have to do with it how good they sound? The whxm4s genuinely sound pretty great and so again i find it hard to believe there is an actual complaint to be made with the xm5's at this point.
As a user of the software some of the issues can be customized in the software. The speech detect can be turned off or lowered to 5 seconds
I've had the XM3 for something like 3 years now and I can say they've been my best tech purchase ever. I've been using them daily and the battery still lasts very long, the noise cancellation is top and the materials haven't worn out (I cleaned them only 1 or 2 times). I'd instantly buy them again. I don't like the look of those XM5 tho, it looks like they are wider and more bulky
I think mine sounds better as the time goes by. Still very conflicted 😐 if I will grab this or wait for the XM6 as the “unfoldadbility “ Apple trend is very cumbersome specially if I carry it inside my small mail man bag 💼. Deal breaker
7:38 - If anyone seeing this already has XM3's or above, when swiping up/down for volume control you can swipe and hold and it will continue increasing/decreasing the volume. I learned this a week ago after owning the 3's for 3 years 😂
Oh my god, 3 years with XM3s. I literally just use the volume controls on my phone to stop me from looking like an idiot
wow
Never knew this, had the xm4 a while thanks
Tx lmao
@dakunclear noice!
Sony’s headphone have been getting better and better in the last five years. And I have picked Sony headphones over Bose the last two times. The quality, sound and comfort is just so good now. Plus the price is very reasonable as well.
2 different processors is better than 1 improved one because it means that each ear cup gets a designated processor. This might give faster response times alongside better isolation due to each ear cup being guaranteed to be independently noise isolated.
@Lizard King 🤡 hypocrite
@Thaumalous God I love the moronic comments any LTT video attracts. 'less data going through the headband' I literally laughed out loud
But also adds weight, power consumption, syncing issues, etc.
But also adds weight, power consumption, syncing issues, etc.
@Steve Muzak this is stupid argument lol Two Bluetooth device meant that it need to sync both of it in tune. Given it already has wire run for battery to both side it is bit weird to see why they don't run data along side with it.
I was at costco a year ago and saw the WH1000XM3 on sale for $120. I asked if something was wrong with them, they said nope its just the last one in stock, so I bought it. I didnt know anything about this stuff and its been going strong since, then I found out this series is actually a really good set of headphones. So I kinda stumbled into it and am glad I did, everything I have compared them to sounds worse XD
Definitly not the momentum 3. Theyre in a different word they are just not comfortable to wear...
@a a Best Headphones under $1000 and bluetooth doesn't add up mate
@a a I wouldn't say they are near the best, they might be really good but compared too $900 ones they aren't nothing
very good deal for XM3s
best headset i have is xm4, i own the over the ear and inner. everything else sucks compared to these, anc is amazing and the sound is good and the bass is heavy. the sony app is amazing and we get a case instead of a purse like airpad pro titty purse thing. oh it also has a power button, i know when it is turned off and isn't heavy as shit.
Linus: Wants a narrower headband 4:33 Also Linus: "They're a bit tight around my neck" 12:35
Linus, you can't expect analytical sound when you connect them to an iPhone. I know the LDAC connection won't make them sound 10 times better but it makes a difference
@M. AKIF Anyone saying that there isn't a difference, I would implore you to get either the WF-1000xm4 or WH-1000xm5, get a list of your favorite 15-20 songs that have some parts that stress the higher end of the spectrum, and do some A/B testing between AAC Compression and LDAC. I promise you will hear a difference if your ears are tunned enough.
Lmao, you think codecs would even make the slightest effect to the tuning of the FR? LOL. You can't expect "analytical sound" out of ANY WH and WF-Series headphones, it's just the nature of their existence to have a v-shaped tuning because that's what most consumers are accustomed to. You can always use parametric EQ like EQ APO or AutoEQ via Wavelet to get somewhat close to "neutral/analytical" target response such as Diffuse-Field or Harman OE.
If the previous iterations are of any indication, they will sound just as disappointing even when you drive them wired from a good source, bypassing the built in electronics. They're not exactly good headphones. But they don't need to be, they just need to be good _bluetooth active noise cancelling_ headphones. If you just want good headphones, you're not buying these, or any bluetooth ANC cans for that matter.
Yeah I was like "Ah man...he's using an iPhone for the first impressions 😔"
Probably tuning. Sony’s wireless lineups always had wonky tuning compared to their wired siblings.
I own a pair of XM4s AND a pair of MDR-A1 and even though I've been using the XM4s for the past year and a half due to the convenience of the wireless/bluetooth/Noise canceling features, I'm always impressed with the quality of the drivers on the MDR-A1. Even thought they cost roughly the same on purchase date, you lose in sound quality what you gain in features (ANC, wireless, voicecall, etc). Hands down, a better sound experience with the "featureless" MDR-A1 headphones. That said, I'm still happy to see some improvements on the latest model but I wish they would of focused a little more on the drivers instead of the software tuning and additional microphones. I would definitely pay 100-200$ more for a pair of XM4s with MDR-A1 drivers over a pair of XM5s!!
I love the aux out and the included cord in my XM3's. I know you guys kind of tease it a bit, but recently it was really nice to use them for an inflight movie on an airplane when I don't have to use the super shitty complementary earbuds. The XM3's also only Bluetooth connect to one device (Huge upgrade in the XM4s and 5s) at a time so at work I have my set Bluetooth paired to my phone and then when I need to hop on a zoom call I just plug in the aux cable.
My guy the aux is for lossless codec support.
yup air travel is a target market for noise canceling headphones, thus the cord. my XM4's even came with an airline adapter.
Following the instructions helps, as does tuning the eq in the app. I've had several pairs of this series of headphones and have been consistently very impressed/happy with them
Is there any way to enable the EQ in the app while also using one of the HD Bluetooth modes? As soon as I try to use LDAC or AptX HD it disables the EQ.
Yeah shortcircuit is really a very lazy milking channel at this point
On Android there's an app called wavelet. It automatically creates a perfectly flat pre eq for each device. Works amazingly on the xm3/4s
I can’t recommend this highly enough. In fact, the lack of such a system wide parametric EQ has become a deal breaker for me for the iPhone. iPhones have shit audio in comparison to android because of this.
Been using XM2 and XM4 forever and love it. My only issue with Sony headphones is the sound. It doesn't sound anywhere close to Bose IMO. Only thing that has me going back.
What I don't like with some of these wireless headphones is that the software for controlling the thing is not available on your PC. It's like it never occurred to the devs that people would want to use their headphones with things other than their cell phones.
Eh? I use them with my PC, and grab my phone if I want to change something. I mean, you have your phone with you... Why would I want to do that on my PC? The app of my fridge or washing machine isn't on PC either, that's not an issue. Why is this?
Yeah I have Sony buds Thankfully you can just tap to change between noise cancelling
I suppose they figure everyone's using it with *at least* a phone, but only a certain percentage with their PCs. Would be nice though, I agree. Might *require* signing in though for settings, wouldn't it?
You can tell tech has moved on so much that it took until the last 2 mins of the video to test the actual primary reason for this gadget: the sound quality!
Damn, those are incredibly beautiful. I have the XM3’s and they still hold up hella well. When I switch, I’m definitely going with Sony again.
Props to the editor on this video for editing the audio, when the music would have resumed as Linus put the headphones back on, etc
It's really amazing how close they've gotten the colours of all of these different material. Except the printed one
12:15 Assuming the UI works the same as the previous version I had at work, what you did there was using the quick-ambiance feature (holding on to the side, not levitating the hand in front of it), play/pause is double-tap
Linus, I feel like you would have enjoyed these headphones more if you'd read the instructions in the app that tell you how to pause, how to play, and how to use quick attention mode. It did say, and you did not do what it said
It really is a terrible video. Unsubbed.
@Yair Lopez Poveda well review quality went downstairs with video quantity. Thats why ltt is in no way the place to go for reviews.
Half arsed review
@Gabriel G That looked so stupid when he held it next to it instead of touching it
@Jyn Yee How to make it more obvious? So you expect the product label every features on the headset itself? basically you want your headsets covered with words and symbols and logos for every function and features they have? Whats the manual for? This is not a plug and play cheap headphone with physical buttons and no extra features.
I've had XM4s for about 6 months now. They're my daily drivers for everything. School, leisure listening, the gym, and on transit. The touch controls are sick and the noise cancellation is solid. One of the best deals for the price imo.
I have the XM4's since they came out, and I've loved them. I use Viper4android as my EQ (with the in-app automatic adjustments made for my ear shape, if that actually does anything.) The only gripe I have with the XM4's is they are awful for taking phone calls, everyone always says I sound like I'm underwater or really quiet, even indoors. They also don't appear to work at all on Windows 11 when using Teams for calls. Only thing that would get me to upgrade to the XM5 is the improved microphones, but I would need to test it in person I think.
For the new labs, you should get mannequin heads with microphone ears to provide justifiable audio data
These headphones are better used with a player that supports LDAC. Using AAC on the iPhone degrades them a bit.
@Checo Weco at this price point Sennheiser HD600
@ANTE Which headphones would you recommend?
I mean if you care about audio quality these probably aren't the best choice for you. Can't wait for the audio frequency response curve to be measured.
A shame that these don’t fold for easier storage like the XM4s do (though at least the case still makes sense, unlike the AirPods Max), but they definitely still look great. That aside, it feels weird that it’s been a good long while since the XM4s came out.
@gorzius that's good to know, I was considering replacing my xm3 with xm4 as well
My XM4s snaped because that folding mechanism wasn’t strong enough.
@Anthony Lee Thanks, but I probably won't be getting the MX5 because of the lack of foldability.
... foldability means more moving parts more moving parts mean earlier and easier failures no foldability no svivel no adjustability just two cans, a wire and, a thick metal band to connect them thank you
@gorzius Important to note that Sony makes you choose between using LDAC and multipoint on the XM4 and XM5s. So if you use multipoint, you're stuck with AAC/SBC.
I opted to skip out on the xm4's since my xm3's are still working great, however the only real gripe I have is that the 3.5 on the headset was somewhat keyed (it was recessed just enough to not allow other cables I had to seat completely)
I hope the microphones are actually useful when there's anything even remotely like a wind blowing, unlike my XM3's.
Watch the CNET review. They have covered in-call noise canceling and it is nothing less than impressive.
Have you tried wind cancelation mode?
Absolutely love the fact that the buttons we had before are still in the same location. Could have added some new ones tho.
These look really fuckin' nice. Would love a pair.
The problem that the Sonys had for me was that the cups were never deep enough so my ears would always end up touching the drivers